what are you going to do with medicare? >> hold on for one second, though, obama has not laid out a specific plan. obama has put out a cap for medicare, but he hasn't said do you want to raise the eligibility age that you talked about with john boehner. we can assume he will, but he hasn't said so. >> he has a specific plan for medicare, you may say it's not enough, not going to work, but he has a specific plan for medicare involving this thing called the ipad and a lot of things we're not going to get into. >> no, that's not the totality of his plan. he said he's going to do more but he hasn't said what the more is. and he hasn't said what he's going to do on social security. talking about eligibility -- >> all the things that has to be done. >> this is what the media does what we're doing here. the truth is, american people are not voting on specifics. and gene, i'd love to have you jump in on this. if you want to know who won the debate, turn off the sound. watch the mannerism, the attitude, gene? >> yeah. i do think tho